Set Script Limits in Standalones

[Peter M. Brigham]

I didn't actually take any of this personally to begin with, so it's all good.

-- Peter

Peter M. Brigham
pmbrig at gmail.com
http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig

On Feb 1, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Dave Kilroy wrote:

> A lovely reply Bill
> 
> I now hope both Peter and Richard are feeling equally valued and respected
> :)
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> Wprothero wrote
>> Interesting discussion for a livecode list, but it can't resist jumping
>> in. I think the issue of titles is very cultural. In the US, titles are
>> much less important than they are in English society, for example (at
>> least from my extensive knowledge gained by watching "Downton Abbey").
>> After I got my PhD in physics, occasionally a friend would jokingly tell
>> me she had a pain in her back, or wherever. I'd immediately suggest that
>> she remove her blouse so I could take a look. Ok, I was young. But it got
>> a laugh. 
>> 
>> I must admit that, as an American where titles are not as important, I
>> wouldn't call myself "Dr" on this list. Personally, I'd rather be judged
>> on my comments and contributions, and I make stupid mistakes just as often
>> as anyone else, and I consider myself a student of livecode anyway.
>> 
>> How we use language is cultural and the Oxford dictionary does add slang
>> whose use becomes so common that is part of the language. In the US when
>> we (or I) hear someone called Dr (outside of a college/academic context),
>> I think first of an MD. If I were an MD and was told I wasn't a "real"
>> doctor, I'd be insulted. It's cultural. Personally I'd feel like I was
>> being pompous if I insisted that the title of Dr was used to address me
>> outside of academia. Again, no criticism of Dr Hawkins. I am guessing
>> that, in his world, it's customary.
>> 
>> One of the things I love about this list is its diversity and folks are
>> not judged by titles, but by their contributions. We can respect others,
>> even in the face of their mistakes or questions that sometimes seem
>> uninteresting.
>> 
>> Ok, back to coffee.
>> Bill
>> 
>> William Prothero
>> http://es.earthednet.org
>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2015, at 3:03 PM, "Dr. Hawkins" <
> 
>> dochawk@
> 
>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Peter M. Brigham <
> 
>> pmbrig@
> 
>> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, but as an MD I have to protest this. I may not have contributed
>>>> to
>>>> knowledge in the sense of having published original research, but i'm
>>>> confident that I have contributed to the well-being of thousands of
>>>> patients. That said, I don't take offense at being called "Mr." outside
>>>> of
>>>> the office.
>>> 
>>> I'm not disputing the value of MDs,  but the meaning of "doctor" for a
>>> couple of thousand of years before the creation of the modern MD.
>>> 
>>> The modern MD was designed (or named) specifically to "borrow" the
>>> prestige/reputation/non-killing-patients of the doctors of the
>>> university,
>>> at a time when general medicine was more likely to hurt than help (I
>>> think
>>> crossover to net good was 1920, give or take, in the western world).
>>> 
>>> It was a wonderful change, and a major factor in modern prosperity.  But
>>> an
>>> MD isn't what the word doctor (latin for "teach") has meant and been used
>>> as--one who has both acquired significant knowledge in a field, and
>>> contributed to that knowledge (and neither does a J.D., which I also
>>> have).
>>> 
>>> I just get a kick out of it every time I hear the pompous "I'm a real
>>> doctor" from an MD dismissing, well, real doctors :)
>>> 
>>> I don't mind the title around, but the chutzpah in dismissing the real
>>> thing is amusing.
>>> 
>>> (I understand, however, that there was an older MD that was comparable to
>>> the PhD and DD, but that's not who most folks were treated by . . .)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
>>> (702) 508-8462
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